June 2021 marks forty years since the first identified cases of what came to be known as HIV/AIDS. In this episode we chat with Dr. Lynne Gerber about a predominantly gay church in San Francisco and how it responded to the AIDS epidemic. We discuss how that church and its minister helped a gay community devastated by sickness, death and constant funerals, and why knowing this history about the AIDS epidemic matters today. Listen to this powerful episode now on Apple, Spotify, or Stitcher.